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Here’s My Riff on “Approaching Groups” (by Jon Sinn)

Today we’re going to dive into the basics of approaching groups.

Most frequently you’ll be approaching groups in bars and clubs.

The most important thing when it comes to approaching groups is being “loud enough” to be heard by EVERYONE in the group.

If you aren’t able to instantly capture everyone in the group’s attention, you may already be in trouble.

The NEXT basic of approaching groups involves eye contact. You want to make sure to spread your eye contact throughout the group and not just give all of it to the girl you’re interested in…

This will just piss people off and show them that you’re only about one thing.

After you get your loudness and eye contact down you need to focus on reforming the group around you.

In the past this was called “locking in.” But locking in is just one of many ways to reform a group around yourself.

In fact many times you can bait a group into reforming using just body language. The overall idea of reforming a group is to make yourself the “center” of everyone’s attention.

If you can get relaxed by either leaning against something or sitting down so much the better.

Once the group is reformed around you, make an attempt to make one comment to “acknowledge” everyone in the group.

You don’t want to ignore anyone, remember she’s known her friends longer than you have and are way more important to her, no matter how good your game is.

After you isolate a girl, bring her back to her friends to “check in.” This is really important.

Before a girl leaves a club with you, she is going to talk to her friends, if just to tell them she’s leaving.

Also oftentimes the friends will come looking for you. So it’s better to go back and check in before they start to wonder.

When you check in, chat with the entire group for 5-10 minutes, then take the girl back into isolation.

Always find out how the group knows each other and how they got there.

In learning game you often hear not to ask questions. This is a BLATANT over exaggeration as some questions can gather vitally important logistical information.

The two most important questions being:

1) “How do you guys all know each other? or some other question to establish the relationship between the members of the group, even if they’re all girls.

2) “How did you get here?” This is important for logistics. If she drove there by herself, she can leave by herself… If she was driven by a friend it gets more complicated. If she’s the driver, you’re screwed.

Ok That’s the basics of handling groups, which can be one of the most important factors between going home alone and going home with that hottie.

Hope that helps.

Now you may be saying, “That list is great and all, but what about the details? How do I acquire all those skills if I’m shy, awkward, and don’t have a lot of time to invest?”…

You’ll find the simple, straightforward answer to that here.

Click here to learn how to ‘Attract Hotter Women’

P.S. Approaching groups is easier than it looks, but it requires some familiarity with approaching women in general.

Dealing with ‘Awkward Silences’ the RIGHT WAY

Ok, there’s a few things here:

1. When you’re in a relationship with a girl or hanging out with your friends it’s TOTALLY NORMAL to have silences.

In fact this might be something where even the idea of “dominate the frame” or “Do 90% of the talking” can make you more weird. I think I fell prey to this trap and to this do I probably talk too much, as do most PUAs.

Silence is normal when you’re with (girl)friends.

2. When you’re in a relationship the growth comes from sharing parts of yourself with another person.

3. When it comes to befriending guys, the best advice still comes from Captain Jack who said when in doubt talk about a few different subjects, girls, alcohol, making money, and sports.

That advice is tried and true. Then be willing to actually follow up on the phone with guys you’ve met and invite them out to activities.

This is actually a skill as you don’t want to seem like you’re asking him out on a date.

You could start out by trying to make friends with a cool guy, you see on a regular basis like a bartender or doorman.

That way you’ll be able to work on it over time.

Hope that helps.

Now you may be saying, “That list is great and all, but what about the details? How do I acquire all those skills if I’m shy, awkward, and don’t have a lot of time to invest?”…

You’ll find the simple, straightforward answer to that here.

Click here to learn how to ‘Attract Hotter Women’

My Favorite Way to “Approach” and “Open” Girls

For today, I’m going to break down the advantages and disadvantages of opening indirectly.

First what is an “indirect opener”?

An indirect opener is an opener that does NOT explicitly convey interest in meeting the girl or group of people you are talking with.

This could range from something as innocuous as asking for the time or directions, to some of your longer, more usual PUA routines.

What are the advantages of opening indirectly?

The biggest advantage of opening indirectly is that you don’t trigger people’s AUTOPILOT responses to being approached.

Some girls are simply not particularly open to meeting new guys, and if you approach them directly they may blow you off.

However, by opening indirectly you can buy yourself an extra few minutes of time to convey your personality and demonstrate value.

Another advantage of opening indirectly, is that indirect openers are generally more interesting than direct openers.

Most indirect openers have at least 30 seconds of built in conversation.

This can be GREAT for beginners who have not yet developed their conversational repertoire.

The last advantage to opening indirectly is that it allows you to control the contingencies.

When you go out and run the same indirect opener over and over, you’ll notice that the same topics come up over and over again.

After awhile it can even seem like you’re able to PREDICT what the girls are going to say.

This can help you focus on your body language, the group dynamic, your spacial relevance, etc…

So what are the disadvantages of opening indirectly?

The first disadvantage of opening indirectly is that you don’t build any attraction with your opener.

There are some exceptions but for the most part an indirect opener is “neutral.”

You still have to do a lot of work to build attraction.

The second disadvantage of opening indirectly, is that you have to transition into a normal conversation.

Because you opened with an indirect opener, once you’re done with the opener you have to get into a normal conversation.

Otherwise you risk stalling out or coming off as “incongruent” since you stopped to ask them a specific question and then stuck around.

Now let’s move on to the CATEGORIES of indirect openers:

“Opinion Openers”: Opinion openers are the easiest way to open.

They have a very specific structure.

Let’s take a look at the structure using the classic Jealous Girlfriend opener by Style.

You first use a HOOK Question: The hook question is designed to get their attention and hook them into a conversation.

I.e. “Would you guys ever date someone who was still friends with their ex-girlfriend?”

The girls answer This part is important because you need the illusion of a two way conversation even when the contingencies aren’t going to change.

Remember no matter what the girls say here, it doesn’t affect what you’re going to do next.

Tease their answer and the reason you’re asking: Teases are important with opinion openers because you’re trying to play the role of “fun social, high value guy.”

“Ok mental note do not date this girl, but the reason I’m asking is because my friend (give a friend’s name) didn’t come out tonight because his girlfriend found a box of pictures and letters from his ex-girlfriend and totally freaked out! She told him he has to stop talking to her and burn the box. Is that like a normal (this city) girl response?”

Move forward into a normal conversation. Just know that you SHOULD not have a 20 minute conversation about jealous girlfriends…

Alright the second category of indirect openers are OBSERVATIONAL openers.

An “observational opener” involves making an observation about the girl or group.

Here’s one of my favorites, this is called the “I point out the obvious” openers.

Sinn: ” You’re wearing a vest!

Girl: uhhh

Sinn: “I point out the obvious it’s kinda my thing, so who are you?”

It’s that simple.

The last category of indirect openers I want to address are “Humorous High Value Openers.” These are any openers that are so over the top that only a high value guy would have the balls to use them.

An examples of this is one of my favorite openers created by myself and The Don.

“The Child Support Opener.”

“Hey guys, I have a REALLY important question. I have three child support payments due this week and I can only afford to pay one of them. Cause I like to go to the track.

Here’s the thing though I don’t want to pay my ex wife cause she’s a cunt. And the second girl is the mother of the third so if I pay one I have to pay the other. Plus my bastard kids don’t appreciate shit.”

The downside of all of these openers is that they can result in blowouts if people don’t get the joke. These are an example of high risk/high reward openers, and are not generally recommended for beginners.

Ok guys, that’s going to wrap up opening indirectly.

If you have a weakness or if you are in any way disingenuine- she’ll know.

Now you may be saying, “That list is great and all, but what about the details? How do I acquire all those skills if I’m shy, awkward, and don’t have a lot of time to invest?”…

You’ll find the simple, straightforward answer to that here.

Click here to learn how to ‘Attract Hotter Women’

The #1 Way To Meet Super Hot Women

Want to know what it is?

Every guy asks me this same question… what is the secret to sleeping with super hot women?

It’s simple.

DATE them first.

Yeah.

There are several reasons for this…

The most common being… these types of girls almost NEVER have ‘one night stands’.

They know their self worth, have too much self-respect and want the emotional fulfilment of having a BOYFRIEND.

(Having a boyfriend also ties into their self-image as a, “hot girl”.)

Quit wasting your time trolling bars and clubs, chasing one night stands and get a girlfriend instead.

And believe me this approach WORKS and is so much better.

(It’s also the secret to having an endless stream of high quality women in your life.)

Now you may be saying, “That list is great and all, but what about the details? How do I meet my girlfriend if I’m shy, awkward, and don’t have a lot of time to invest?”…

You’ll find the simple, straightforward answer to that here.

Click here to learn how to meet your girlfriend

get a GF or die tryin’

How’s that for an intense subject line?

As you can see by my persistent emails…

I truly believe the number one reason men aren’t getting a great girlfriend of their choice is because they rationalize and procrastinate…

“I’ll get some help later…”

“I’ve got too much stuff going on right now…”

“Things are not that bad anyways…”

The other reason I’ve uncovered is because they don’t believe they can do it.

Some men have had no luck with women for so long and have tried so many different things…

They have simply given up.

Don’t let this be you.

Use the number 1 strategy for getting a girlfriend of your choice quickly and easily by going here now:

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No more rationalizing or procrastinating… handle this right now while it’s fresh in your mind.

Why women don’t like or respect you.

If you’re not regularly hooking up with women, and struggling to get laid, there’s a good chance that women think you’re a dick.

Seriously.

You might be ‘too nice’, ‘too clean’, ‘too polite’ etc.

You might be in touch with feminine side. In tune with your emotions.

But she doesn’t want that bullshit.

She wants a mean guy who will ravish her like a sex toy. A bad boy.

Not a metro-sexual* worried about how nice he smells, how white his teeth are, and how shiny his hair is.

Guys that put on more cosmetic type products than women are dicks in the eyes of women who want men to walk up to them and say “get your bag, we’re going back to your place so I can come all over your face.”

If that sounds too shocking for you, then you’re probably one of the men women think are dicks.

Moisturize, or realize?

How To Treat Her Like A Highly Sexual Creature that she is And Get The Best Sex Of Your Life

Now you may be saying, “That is great and all, but what about the details? How do I acquire all those characteristics of a bad boy if I’m shy, awkward, and don’t have a lot of time to invest?”…

You’ll find the simple, straightforward answer to that here:

Click here to learn how to ‘Attract Hotter Women’

P.S. *metro-sexual – be clear on this – a young, urban, heterosexual male with liberal political views, an interest in fashion, refined sense of taste and similar interests traditionally associated with women or homosexual men.

I have a challenge for you this week… (by Jon Sinn)

I was out with a friend of mine, and I noticed something REALLY interesting about the way he thought about the world.

This guy (who is actually doing really well with 9 new lays since I last saw him in Dec) walks around assuming things about himself, women, and approaching that are COMPLETELY ludicrous.

Let’s take a quick spin through a few of this guy’s assumptions.

The FIRST thing he assumes when he sees a particularly beautiful woman is that she is going to be unfriendly.

He also assumes any girl with a guy is going to like the other guy “more than him.”

Furthermore he assumes that all hot girls are NOT going to be interested in him.

He assumes that other people are watching his approaches and judging him.

And he assumes that he can TELL she has no attraction to him.

Whew there’s a lot of dysfunction in there…

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So afterwards, we went through these and I personally helped him reframe all of those assumptions and gave him strategies to cope with the assumptions as they come up.

To do this I asked him a simple question.

I said ” How would you feel, if you NEVER assumed anything about a woman or an approach situation?”

He started to think about it and said he would free to do whatever he wanted and approach all the girls he wanted more confidently, instead of always worrying about what he was “sure” would happen.

So here’s the challenge for you guys this week.

I want everyone out there reading this to try to go this ENTIRE week without making any assumptions about girls or approaching girls.

Don’t assume girls are going to be bitchy, or nice, or even that they’re going to speak English.

Instead just follow through on what you want to do.

See what happens.

If you want to get all of the best thinking on what creates that magical thing called ATTRACTION inside of a woman, then you need to read the eBook “Attract Hotter Women”… just go to:

Click here to learn how to ‘Attract Hotter Women’

..and download your copy now.

P.S. Your beliefs and assumptions cause you to look for evidence in the world.

An easy way to reprogram them is to change the things you’re paying attention to.

Why your parents generation got laid more often…

Which generation is the champion when it comes to wooing women into bed?

That’s what new research published in the Archives of Sexual Behavior revealed…

A study from the General Social Survey was run on 33,000 adults between 1972-2012.

It aimed to measure the United States’ shifting sexual landscape. And here’s what it found when it came to the average number of sexual partners by age 25:

Greatest Generation (1901-1924) – 3
Silent Generation (1925-1945) – 5
Baby Boomers (1946-1964) – 11
Gen X (1965-1984) – 10
Millennial (1985-2004) – 8
As you can see, the Baby Boomers were the seduction champs. But do you notice something after them?

A decline in the number of partners. And why do you think that is?

To be honest, I have no idea. But I can tell you this:

If they simply knew how to SPEAK to CREATE arousal, all of those numbers would be MUCH higher.

If you want to get all of the best thinking on what creates that magical thing called AROUSAL inside of a woman, then you need to read the eBook “Attract Hotter Women”… just go to:

‘Attract Hotter Women’

..and download your copy now.

Use Today: 3 Ways To Turn Her On *POWERFUL*

So what are the 3 things PROVEN to attract women anytime, anywhere?

Write this down: To attract women on a CHEMICAL level…

You MUST do these 3 things:

1 – Frame YOURSELF as the prize in this interaction.

2 – Get HER chasing you.

3 – Give her the opportunity to WIN you over.

Miss any of those 3 traits, and she’ll lose interest over time!

X You’ll eventually find yourself in her friend-zone…
X She’ll stop responding to your texts over time…
X And getting her to meet-up with you again will be almost impossible!

Here’s the good news…

Do all 3 of those in your first conversation with her, and she’ll be helpless to resist!

She’ll text YOU first, trying to get your validation.

She’ll start obsessing about how to win you over. And most importantly…

You’ll STOP missing out with women just because you don’t know the PROVEN way to chemically attract her!

And just so you know…

This is a lot easier to do than you think.

Now you may be saying, “That list is great and all, but what about the details? How do I acquire all those characteristics if I’m shy, awkward, and don’t have a lot of time to invest?”…

You’ll find the simple, straightforward answer to that here.

Click here to learn how to ‘Attract Hotter Women’

Role-playing and why exactly “That s**t works.”

First off, we need to explain what role-playing is.

Role-playing is the act of playfully giving girls roles and/or giving yourself a role and acting them out in an interaction.

Role-playing is an example of leading a woman on an emotional journey, which is the first of MY attraction switches, to go with the main 3.

RP first and foremost brings girls out of the here and now.

It is important to distinguish ourselves from other guys by getting out of the here and now.

By telling the girl you are going to dress her up as an angel, etc. you stop her from thinking about how she’s getting hit on in a bar.

The next important part of RP is that it allows her to take on a role and do things she may not have done with out the role.

An example of this is the stripper names routine, which allows you to both walk away from her, get her to chase you and ask you for your name.

RP also pumps buying temperature.

This means that the more emotional a girl gets, the more open to escalation she becomes. So if you can get a girl laughing really hard, she becomes less logical and thus easier to game.

Logic is your enemy so the more that you can disengage her logical mind by getting her to think about a ridiculous situation the less inclined to be logical she will become.

Because after all you’re not really going to dress her up in a toga and take her to Greece.

Now that we know what we are trying to do with role-playing, where does it fit into a set?

Well like a butter knife, the role-playing concept has quite a few uses.

First you can use it as a transition from an opener into a normal conversation.

You can use it in attraction to add some more emotion to a staling set or to pump buying temp before you try to move or escalate.

You can use it on the phone as call back humor.

You can use it in the bedroom, but that’s an entirely different post.

Now sure, if you struggle with conversation this all might be hard, but that’s why I made the Effortless Conversation System.

Make your life easier and check it out!

3 Role Plays to Test Out Tonight

Finally in the spirit of generosity I will give you guys some role-plays that you can use tonight.

1: You know what I’m going to do with you guys? I’m going to dress you guys up like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, and we are going to go run around the bar making sure everyone is behaving.

You’re going to be Donatello, cause you’re the leader. You’re going to be Leonardo because you seem like the coolest. You’re Michelangelo because you’re totally the life of the party. And you’re going to be Raphael because you’re totally the feisty one.

2. I am going to take you on a romantic date… to the Sizzler. And you can order anything on the menu. Even the $6 dollar steak. (I use this all the time!)

3. I’m going to get you guys a bunch of wigs and shiny clothes and we are going to have our own American Idol contest right here. And the winner gets to hang out with me all night!

If you want to get all of the best thinking on what creates that magical thing called ATTRACTION inside of a woman, then you need to read the eBook “Attract Hotter Women”… just go to:

‘Attract Hotter Women’

..and download your copy now.